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>>15 Simson
"Now, I didn't fix. Do you think about more better way?"
I don't think that. But now Moritz is white he is more better.
>>15 Simson
"Why did you want to prophesy Otto? I want to know reason."
Log is difficult me. But Otto is ●Moritz after Final decision:●Moritz. So I think he is daught.
>>15 Simson
"Provisional and final decision was not same your opinion. Did you think about it?"
I daught Otto, and you daught Moritz.
I do not daught Moritz, but do not know he is wolf.
So I OK it.
Now Moritz is white and I daught you.
■1.Katharina is daught(Possess) and Simon is True.
■2.Simson is daught(wolf) and Liza is true.
■3.Wait
■4.●Otto ▼Nicolas
Boys and girls and Vegitable and Zura,
Good-Evening dabe!
I had thought before reading the record.
I think that I should protect the hunter today.
■4.▼Nicolas or MEDIUM
I feel that Nicholas are not hunter.
poppo-
I'm sorry that I'll come back a little late, around 22:00.
In my present (temporary) feeling, I want to request today's ▼ from the gray people, permitting avoidance by hunter CO.
【I confirmed Moritz is white】
Moritz's soul isn't pure white!
But, It's fixed that Moritz is village side person.
I agree with that Moritz become the coordinator.
■2.
If Zurason is a wolf, other wolves should be good at concealment.
Because Zurason's declaration was early dabe.
It is risky to put out yesterday's decision when Zurason is Possess. Because Moritz's true colors is not understood dabe.
■2.
If Lisa was a wolf, the soul was fixed-MEDIUM.
There are possibilities of wolves in a word not good at the line switching off.
orz
>>88 ← I made a mistake!
Possess : × Zurason ○ Liza
Werewolf:○ Zurason ○ Liza
I'm sorry I don't think I can stay awake till todays final decision.
Arround 22:00-23:00 will be my deadline.
Anyway, I will drop my thoughts about Mediums.
About Medium...
Saying from Liza's CO timing, I think it will be difficult to do it if she is a werewolf.
So, if she is not the medium, I think she is possess.
Thinking her as a possess, her CO can be explained as her disliked the Medium to be fixed.
>>91 Hi Dieter!I also think so dabe!
It might say from timing and be unnatural in that opinion if it thinks usually by agreement as the wolf.
At the same time,
If CO was not done when Lisa was a wolf, it might have been execution first time dabe.
Sorry...I'm later...
2-2 and Certain human.
I think that I decreased as the load of Hunter increased.
Seer or Medium first attack,seems to be able to run away...(Perhaps...)
■2.
The deception might have only come simply if Simson was a wolf.
When Liza was a wolf, fixation might have been feared.
However, it is forecast the hesitation of Hunter more than the state of 2-2 if it is 2-1.
It is Seer of the uncertainty though is useful.
Medium as Coordinator.
Which does Guard do?
Do I think too much?
The possibility of Liza is a wolf cannot be thrown away.
In that case, Liza appeared to help someone.
Moreover, the possibility that the wolf lurks in Seer cannot finish being thrown away.
The possibility of Liza is Possess or Villager also.
I thinks simply feel the possibility of Simson is a wolf high.
At present, I am looking only at the situation.
I already told that to me, Katharina looks like the possess. So, I am looking Liza as the true Medium.
Yet, this guess is mainly from situation, so I need to look more about seers and mediums.
>>92 Jacob
>latter part
I do agree that latter part too.
Liza seems very busy, and today, we can't see her yet aslike yesterday.
If she did'n Co as the Medium, so that she is silent, we may have hanged her, I guess.
By the way, I would say that I am a bit confused about Simon's stance.
I thought he thinks Villager-pretending really BLACK so that he can't see Nicolas without prophesy.
Though, he didn't set Nicolas as the 1st day's prophesy.
SO I thought he is thinking of hanging Nicolas today, but today he is speaking of hanging grays(>>84).
★Simon
Why do you changed mind about Nicolas? Or, are you thinking of using prophesy to him today? I wish you to explain about it.
■1.About the Seer(esse)s
Maybe genuine-werewolf>genuine-possess
The reason is Medium-analysis.
If Katharina is not true, maybe Katharina is Possess. Because Rocket-CO.
If Simon is not true, maybe Simon is werewolf.
■2.About the Mediums
Now, I think Wigman-Simson is true. Because Liza is the most silent person, so I can't judge her.
On the assumption of Simson-true Medium, Liza'CO feel incompatibility.
Wigman-Simson slid the Seer to the Medium.
Aspect of werewolves, werewolves can select to hide all werewolves. I have no idea why werewolves pretended the Medium.
So, I think Possess pretended the Medium.
So, I think that the genuine Seer is Katharina and not-true Seer is Simon. And maybe Simon is werewolf.
And I think that the genuine Medium is Wigman-Simson and not-true Medium is Liza. Maybe Liza is Possess.
[Biscotti with a letter]
>>80 Clara
I think I said ●Moritz before final decision... (See >>1:239, >>1:244, and >>1:256)
Did you want to say ''PROVISIONAL decision''?
And why do you want to lynch Nicolas today?
I found the reason you doubt me, but I've not found why you doubt Nicolas.
If you doubt me more certainly than Nicolas, I wonder you'll say ▼Otto, not ●.
Please tell me why in your own words.
poppo-
>Dieter
I think Nicolas is also gray, isn't he?
We don't have enough information, so I'm not convinced my analysis.
One of the reason why I'm not convinced is the villager-pretend!!!
▼Villager-Pretender!
I don't think I can speak much anymore, so I would present my wish now.
As my wish...
▼Nicolas ●Fridel
I don't think the hunter will pretend as a Seer, so this decision would be good to protect hunter.
...Well. I agree Jacob, man.
About Fridel, I still have a difficulty to find out what she is saying, so I have to apologize that I may have misread her speech,
but I have a feeling that she speaks a lot about guarding someone, which seems to me as seeking the hunter.
>>101 Simon
Yes, Nicolas is one of the gray.
But yesterday, you strongly appealed that you think Villager-pretending is BLACK, and spoke rather lot about Nicolas.
Today, you haven't rahter touched about him, and spoke of hanging grays.
I thought you are setting Nicolas at diffrent possition(as a person whove done Villager-pretending), so it was my question you not try to hang(or prophesy) him today.
So, if you are saying gray including Nicolas, it is OK, but still I have to ask this;
★Simon
What do you think you should do about Nicolas?
poppo-
>Dieter
In my sense, The category of villager-pretender doesn't exist. Nicolas is gray, but much nearer black. So I call him gray.
■3.Gray analysis
Nicolas: Very tasty vegetable! But,He is pretty dubious.
I can't understand why he pretended the Seer in spite of the villager.
It's unnatural!
So we had better hang him today, because ▼Villager-Pretender!!!
>>107 Simon
roger that.
I'm sorry if I can't see your response before sleeping.
■3.Gray analysis
Peter:He asks many people in spite of little-boy!
There is no unnatural point in the posture of his question.
Now White-side.
■3.Gray analysis
Jacob: Dabe-man! Nicolas that Jacob made is very delicious!
Jacob was silent yesterday.
But today Jacob is talkative.
Therefore, I think it is good now about him in the stand-off.
About other grays:
Peter: Makes a lot of question. Yet, I am not sure how the question is working on his gray-looking yet. I think I need to wait a bit more.
Jacob: No mark. Seems very reliable villager to me.
The most White person right now for me.
Otto: Not so talkatve, but he seems to be a person who can think well. I don't feel like prophesying him today.
■3.Gray analysis
Dieter:He is moderate.
But,Dieter gives his views positively.
So I think Dieter need not be foretold today.
>ALL
I understood at this late date...
I thought that everyone was judging me to be a Werewolf.
If I am Werewolf, I never stopped pretending.
The reason is that it is very very disadvantageous.
Therefore, I think that I was not understanding everyone's opinion correctly.
To similar,my answer might have been a mistake.
I think more.
Uh...I want to say some more about others, but have no more time.
Sorry, but good night.
■3.Gray analysis
Otto:The bread that Otto made is delicious.
Yesterday, Otto asked Katharina only. And His opinion of prophesy was Moritz yesterday.
Otto suspected Moritz without especially examining Moritz. It's very doubtful.
So I think Otto need to be foretold today.
■4.●Otto▼Nicolas
The reason of ●Otto is >>118
The reason of ▼Nicolas is >>109
It's very difficult to do Gray-analysis in English!
I'm very tired!!!
I want to eat Nicolas-Salad!!!
I'm home and wrote it. Please see it.
■1.About the Seer(esse)s
I can't understand why Katharina want to prophesy silent person.
I said a opinion about silent person.(>>9)
So I want to prophesy talkative or moderate person.
I doubt her waste prophesy and if things go well make sham result.
Katharina done rocket CO, and it looks like a Posses.
But I can't throw away possibility Werewolf, because avobe reason.
Then, Simon say ●Thomas with a passion.
I couldn't not judge white or black because he said passion.
But, I like his opinion about Nicolas.
He said "The category of villager-pretender doesn't exist."
I agree it too. He looks like coolness person.
And he hard to answer question honestly. It looks like true Seer.
If he is not true, he is a werewolf maybe.
If he is not true:Werewolf>Posses
Katharina answered question from other person, too.
But her answer was looks like fuzzy. So I feel difficult to believe her.
>Liza and Simon.
I apologizes to Liza and Simon.
I have to answer subject for discussion of today.
I will answer later for you.
■2.About the Mediums
I feel difficult to analysis her because she is wery silent.
But if she is Posses, she thought CO for not fixing me maybe.
If she is Werewolf.......sorry, I can't imagine.
So I analysis after when she more talkative.
Now, I am reading again everyone's words.
Please wait gray analysis.
Nicolas>>64 > "Is it my study shortage?" Yes,you study shortage.Choice,werwolfs & possess.also not village.
>>65 I don't forgotten possess.I doubt you and seers and mediums.
But,your doing if you village so bad.I can't trust you.I doubt you possess.
You say "Werewolf is possible to consult at a speed that is faster than the villager. " It is true.
You say slowly. We wait you. difficult English !
I'm home!
I haven't read the detail of all log very well, but now I'll do some comment.
★Liza > How time can you speak everyday ? Can you say Medium result at morning ?
■1.True(T):Katharina > Simon:Pretend(P)
Katharina : True > Possess >> Werwolfs
Simon : True = Werwolfs = Possess
■2.T :Simson = Liza: P
I can't understand Liza.
about Medium
Some people think that Liza is the genuine Medium because of her CO timing, but I don't agree with their opinion.
Since Liza is the last person that came at 1st day. Many people were worring whether she come. I think the wolves were also worrying if she is the wolf.
The 2-1 CO style is not bed for wolves because either the seer or the medium is easily attacked at the 1st attack. And 2-2 CO style is not so bad for the wolves, too.
So, shall we imagine, that the wolves left the red message to Lisa "If you want to pretend, you can pretend. Or you don't want to pretend, you don't have to".
She seems very silent. If she doesn't pretend, she may be hunged at 1st hunging.....?
It's just the fiction. But I want to say that the possibility can't be thrown.
■3.Gray analysis
Thomas
He was only person about hang Nicolas.
But his opinion was contains many subjectivity.
I couldn't respect it. Nicolas is so white?
Why he looks like confidence? Unbelievable.
He looks like black a little.
Clara
Maybe, she tries make answer with her words.
But, her words is also only conclusion.
It omission processes.
So she looks like black. I want to hear your opinion with prosseses.
Fridel
She tries read everyone's mind used question and analysis. And she answered honestly any question.
It is so favorite image for me.
So, she looks like white.
Traveler Nicolasは、Littleboy PeterI wish to express my gratitude to you. You suspected me but taught me many.
Good evening everyone.
I don't feel it easy to answer in the questionnare form, so I use ■1〜4 numbers later.
First, I took notice that Simon came out as Seer although there are 3 would-be Seer(esse)s.
Why did he have to came out?
The point is that Simon didn't know 2 slides occurring.
Let's suppose that he is Lunatic.
There were already 3 would-be Seer(esse)s at his coming-out point.
The considerble breakdown is; Seer(ess), Werewolf and Medium (or Just-Villager. As of Guardian, I think the possibility of it to be thin though it is incontrovertible.) OR Seer(ess) and 2 Werewolves.
If there is a Medium (or alternative Village-person), I think he/she will slide: his coming-out take a pretty high risk of leading to lynch 1 or 2 Werewolves.
I think it inadvisable as behavior of Lunatic.
Next. Let's suppose that he is Werewolf.
There were already 3 also.
The breakdown is; Seer(ess), Lunatic and Village-person (means Medium, Just-Villager ----- or Guardian); Seer(ess), Lunatic and Werewolf; Seer(ess), Village-person and Werewolf.
I think that the Werewolves have preferable alternative in the last case: for example both pretenders keep pretending and make different lines.
Moreover, Werewolves apt to feel more difficult to work together with hidden Lunatic than with comen-out Lunatic, so it's natural they consider Lunatic already came out as a pretender.
I think, in the case Simon is Werewolf, he knew the slide-occurring ----- in other words, there was a Werewolf of the two: Simson and Nicolas.
>>137 Peter
Sure. Of course, she contains possibility werewolf.
I want to say about if she is werewolf, I can't explain why she CO the Medium.
Now, too little her words.
Pprobably, if she is Werewolf, she want to avoid first hanging? I think only it. Hmmm.....
And Simson.
He talks well contrastively, and I haven't found suspicious points with him. But I think even the wolf can act truly.
And when thinking Simson, I can't set apart Nicolas, because their cancel timimgs of the seer-pretending were very close.
Actually, It is not likely that Nicolas and Simson were both wolves, I think.
I want to know the other people's opinion about this point.
>>118 Albin
I'm sorry, I seem not to have said the reason I thought Moritz especially though I thought I had said yesterday.
I think it remarkable Moritz has asked Katharina and Simon about confirming time (See >>1:181).
If not he but Simson asked them, I would not care, because Simson had possibilities to be fixed ----- to be the Coodinator at that day.
Moritz didn't have the same possibilities, but he cared their last confirming of decision.
So I think him doing a great service to coodinate.
The rest is ... see >>1:239.
Also I think Katharina is possess,>>1:168
so I think the medium candidate members are composed of genuine and the wolf.
Noooo...time...
●Otto○Dieter
Otto talks overwhelmingly. Dieter is only anxious.
▼Nicolas
The reason is written now.
Sorry!!Sorry!!
I read Nicolas>>115.
I can't understand him very well. but, I want to talk him more.
I remove him today hanging and prophsys my hope.
■3.Gray analysis
Otto
I couldn't feel his color yesterday.
But, now he tries explain opinion and prossess with his words.
It is looks like so white.
I don't want to prophesy, of course I don't want to hang him too.
Ahhhhhh! Less time! Please wait for answer ▼●.
Good evening everyone.
I've read log. It's too difficult..
★I consider two way.
One is gray hanging. The other is starting the roller hanging of mediums.
Which do you think better?
we don't have a lot of hunging ropes, so if we can, I want to decide just the pretending medium to be hunged.
(Of course, according to the case, we have to to Roller)
Now Liza is too silent. Her information is very little. I hope her to give us more information before hunging if she is the gemuine medium.
And I have some hope to get some hunging information from the mediums.
Therefore I don't want to hung the medium today. I request ▼gray.
■4.●▼
▼Nicolas, if he doesn't hanging, ▼Clara or Thomas.
Because, I feel black both person. Please see gray analysis.(>>133)
●Thomas>>>Clara, please see gray analysis too.(>>133)
>>146 Moritz
Hanging of the Mediums is too fast.
My opinion is gray-hanging. ▼Villager-Pretender!!!
Oops, less words the opinion.(>>148)
▼Nicolas, if he doesn't hanging, ▼Clara>>Thomas.
It is correct.
Oh, it's already 23 o'clock!
I thought I would let you know my TEMPORARY desire in a hasten.
I think I'd like to use prophecy for a person who seems to be pegging the possibility of the Villagers and that of the Werewolves.
Yesterday, I thought Moritz had a nearly-equalled possibility, so I desired him to be identified.
Now we know he is fixed-WHITE, so I'm considering about Peter and Albin: both who offered agenda.
Offering agenda is also service to coodinate village.
I'd like to see the intended meaning: the Villagers or the Werewolves.
At this point, I prefer Albin to be identified than Peter, because he often says he has confirmed ----- it can project an image of Village-minded person.
Simson>>139 > My word did not suffice.my question "Do not you think silent werwolfs 【in Gray】"
I see that you hate silence prophesy. but i read your>>133 you say Claa look like brack.I get answer.
I say srowly.Excuse me.
Ah, no time!
For the moment, I don't want to see(prophesy) and hung Otto, Dieter, Peter, Albin.
I am thinking today's request among Jacob, Fridel, Thomas, Clara, and Nicolas.
Oh! Time slure quiqly !!
>>146 I hope ▼Medium(Liza)
I think if Nicolas is village.(>>144)
and we have hunging @6. werwolf & possess @4.
I don't make a mistake.
And ... I seem that Clara suspects whom is easy to make an accusation without clear indication of reasons; it seems black to me.
She had a opinion of ●Otto yesterday with no reason (she told the reason TODAY).
She has a opinion of ●Otto and ▼Nicolas, with only the reason of ●Otto. (I've pointed at >>100)
So my temporary opinion is ●Albin (○Peter) and ▼Clara.
Incidentally, I consider Nicolas JUST one of the Grays.
I'll tell the reason later.
>>152 Peter
OK, I made mistake your words, sorry.
I took ●Clara. But I want to hang her than prophesy her.
I wrote this opinion. Did you see it?
And, I couldn't find black person than Thomas and Clara. It's OK?
●Dieter ○Thomas
sorry passion.
I write grey analysis now.English is very dificult.fuu...
>>146 Moritz
Those are two ways, I want to hanging gray because I want to see looks like black person's color.
OK? I said if hanging other.(>>133)
Oh no, I cannot get ahead with my consideration about Seer(esse)s and Mediums...
>>146 Moritz
I think it's too early to lynch would-be Medium TODAY, and I hope that we lynch a Gray who is devious(contains Nicolas; I think he is just a Gray).
▼Nicolas
If he isn't hunged, I have to select not because of suspicious point but because of their silent.
>>▽Clara>Thomas>Jacob
But I don't want to hung silent(for me) people today. Actually, they are not very silent, just I feel they feel difficulty in speaking English. I want to wait at least for one day.
Simson>>156 > Thank you. I see your>>150 now.
but......Why do not you want ▼Liza ?
>>163 Peter
I think everyone want to see both Medium result.
Only it.
If can hang Liza, I glad to it of course.
●Reason
Sometimes, I can't understand Fridel's opinion very well. I think it's because of the difference of our sense and (speaking and reading skill of each other). But she gives a lot of question to many people, I feel villager's fervor from her. I want to identify her tonight.
Sorry.
I can say only this.
It will speak later.
(This is the temporary one. )
■4.▼Dieter ●Albin
I'm home.
But I want to take the bath, so I'll see decision later.
Sorry.
about Ncolas, today I didn't have more black points from other people than those from Nicolas.
I would like to recieve the answer from Nicolas today. (Of course I understand he is very busy. )If I have recieved, I maybe think about Nicolas differently.
His pretending is black point. Some people pointed out his cancel timing, I'm not sure about it because for me just the villager-pretending is big noise and I can't think about cancel timing.
Where is Moritz?
It's the time of Provisional Decision!
Well... continued from >>138.
Now considering a situation: Simon is Werewolf (Katharina is the Seeress), either Simson or Nicolas is also Werewolf.
(Of course there is possibility that both Simson and Nicolas are Werewolves, but it's too agressive because ALL of the Werewolves coming out!)
If Simson is Werewolf (Nicolas is Lunatic), his coming out as Seer makes sense to wait and see Lunatic, but he is sure to confused who is the Lunatic even after Nicolas' slide. The Werewolves might think Nicolas could be just a Villager.
If Nicolas is Werewolf (Simson is Lunatic), the same way, the Werewolves might think Simson could be true Medium.
Even if Simson is the Medium, someone's pretend helps him (Simson) lynched by so-callen Roller. But Nicolas slided to a Villager not a Medium.
I think it unnatural to the Werewolves.
■3.Nicolas: He did not notice.We doubt him possess or werwolfs.(>>115)
If this word his lie. but if lie is so bad.
I think he is village.I hope talk him more.
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