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■3. Gray analysis
Nicolas:
The most black person in this village!
Because Nicolas is Villager-Pretender!
I have spoken why Villager-Pretender Nicolas is black a lot. So I don't explain repeatedly.
Most black!
■3. Gray analysis
Jacob:
Oh,oh. I forget Jacob! HAHAHA!w
Jacob was silent in 1st day.
Jacob spoke a lot in 2nd day. But his remark only arranged the situation. There weren't his opinion in his sentence.
In 3rd day, Jacob spoke his aggressive opinion. But who is Sam?w
I have no idea Jacob is a human or werewolves.
So I want to foretell him.
Now gray.
tamamh2さん、306村と掛け持ちしてるんだ。
すげー。いくらあっちが完全ランダ村だと言っても。
あっちのIDのほとんどに見覚えがある気がする。
リス君の ID 停止は仕方ないけど、あさくらさんの突然死理由に吹いてしまった。
■3. Gray analysis
Gray-Scale
Black:Nicolas>Peter>Thomas>Jacob>Fridel>Dieter:White
■4.●Thomas○Jacob▼Nicolas▽Peter
I don't think to foretell Peter. Peter is hanged.
So My opinion of foretelling is Thomas. The second opinion of foretelling is Jacob. Because it's very difficult to Judge Jacob by his sentence.
My opinion of hanging is Nicolas. It's the iron plate! If Nicolas isn't hanged, Peter is hanged!
I'm finally back at box!
I will read the log again from now.
I'm very tired!
Because I made a false-gray-analysis!
つーかーれーたー!
Good evening, everyone.
>>96 Albin
Have you read >>3:272?
I've not found your consideration of these; merits of the Werewolves to pretend a Villager-pretender, and demerits of the Villagers to be a Villager-pretender.
I can understand you only by seeing your consideration of this.
ども。
ちなみに私、嫌いですよ村騙り。狩人やってる時、占い師がそれで確定してテンション下がりましたし。
何処守るべきか人狼との駆け引きが出来なくてつまらないじゃないですか!
占い師鉄板でOKとか面白くありませんよ。
確定霊能者か占い師候補2or3名の誰を守るか悩むのが楽しいのに。
I occasionally want to say to everyone.
I don't want to read English that the translation site translated.
Unnatural English is unsightly.
We don't have to make a long sentence!
Please make a sentence easy to read!
>>101 Otto
I read it.
But my opinion and your opinion are different at all.
So I can't accept your opinion.
いや、ほら。
確認した、とOKはまたニュアンス違うからそこはいいんだけどね。
翻訳機通すと無駄に意味の取れない文章になるから嫌い。
辞書はいいですよ。ぐぐるせんせーで単語だけ調べるとかでもいいです。
むしろこういった手探り議論に関して言えば、文法なんて飾りです。通じればそれが正義!
ぶっちゃけそれっぽい単語を並べればいいんですよ。
英語の授業じゃないし相手はネイティブでもないし。
I found a question to me.
>>87 Jacob
Mm... I'm not sure I got the meaning of question correctly.
I think you are mentioning Otto becoming pure white as Nicolas's white point.
That guess will make sense if Katharina or Simon is werewolf -- he/she could have made Otto PANDA.
Although, if The sham Seer is the posess, they won't know who is werewolf or not, so it will not be Nicolas's WHITE point.
And, I do think Katharina is sham, according to both Seer's saying.
I guess today's her making Otto white is that she was really hesitated if Otto is werewolf or not, if she is the posess.
Supplementation
I have spoken my opinion of VIllager-Pretender a lot!
Why do you ask me about Villager-Pretender obstinately?
本当に翻訳サイトの訳したひどい英語を見るのにうんざりしているんですが。
こんな感じになるとは想像していませんでした…
SO Otto is here.
I want to ask you few.
1: when is today's decision time?
2:I thought there were someone saying about CO of the hunter.
I do think it will be difficult for the hunter to earn 2 more GJ, so making hunter CO to lessen gray is one of the choices. Is there any opinion of you?
★Katharina and Simon:
Though someone might already questioned, I have a few questions for you two.
(1) Why do you think your rivalry said me white?
(2) What do you think of having identified all white ----- NO BLACK?
(3) If your rivalry is a Werewolf, who do you think seem to his/her crony?
■1.About the Seer(esse)s
There is no big addition from Katharina which appeals her as the true Seer.
Yet, I am doubtful of werewolf setting Otto as another pure-white.
So, I think Katharina is a posess than a werewolf--
yet I am doubtful Simson is werewolf or not.
There is a little possibility of her acting like posess so that she will not be hanged, but I don't see that possibility so much.
Simon, just looks very like a Seer.
Simon>>>>Katharina
Katharina: Posess>>werewolf>True.
>>102 Albin
I just want you to presentate the merits for the Werewolves and the demerits for the Villagers to be a Villager-pretender.
I think you say ▼Nicolas as a Villager-pretender because you believe there is some merits for the Werewolves and demerits for the Villagers.
I think it's EASY for you to do it, but is it too difficult for you?
I think it BLACK that you keep concealing your consideration of this.
I need some time to drop my gray analysis.
Was there any other question to me?
I answered some by the pigeon.
☆>>106 Dieter
Oh, do I make a decision today?
【If I make today's decision, I'd like to do 22:30/23:30.】
No matter how I work hard, I cannot stay awaken after 24:00, sorry.
As for Guardian's coming-out...
I will leave it to the Guardian at this point.
I think it's information of us whether there is Guardian-coming-out or not.
But, at the individual level, I want the Guardian to avoid to be lynched.
>>111 Otto
Thanks for the answer.
Clara is asking you to be today's coordinater at >>71.
うーむ。
狩人COどうしようかな……。
大分白めに見られ始めたし今日あたり襲撃食らう可能性もありそうなんだよねー。
>>112 Dieter
Oh, I've seen >>71 for the first time.
Thanks.
I leave my seat for a little. **
■3.Gray analysis.
【Nicolas】
I have to apologize again that I have difficulty to seek out from his words.
Yet, he did village-pretending and also he is not shining-white so that I can allow his pretending. If he is the true villager, he should have thought carefully if his doing will help others, and if he can make smart speech so that he can be shining white.
Saying from his speechs, in fact I have a feeling he appeals him as a villager too much, which seems rather black to me.
I think I've already mentioned this yesterday, but his excuses about village-pretending(and aware of hanging as the werewolf) is just saying "If he is the werewolf, he would not have done cancelling.", and no more.
So that Otto is pure-white and I can't find out his really WHITE point, I can't reduce looking him BLACK.
【Albin】
He is, nither talkative nor silent. I forgot to do his analysis yesterday, I guess.
The black point of him is that he is too pushy about ▼pretending-villager without tying to explain other grays.
It makes him seem like not willing to do gray analysis deeply, and show lines with others.
mm...gray, a bit black.
【Peter】
I want to wait for his answer, but I've already pointed out where he looks black.
I can't figure out if he is black or not, So I do wish him to fortell.
【Thomas】
He is rather silent today...
There is no more data, what can I say about him?
【Fridel】
There is no more usefull speeches today from her...
mm...gray.
【Jacob】
He looks white to me.
There are too many hard-to-thinkabouts to make a grayscale...
どうでもいいが、普通に霊能者一本でCOしてもローラーかけられたんじゃないかと言う疑惑がある。
霊ローラーやりたがる人多いよね。なんでだ。
騙りを確実に一人轢き潰せる&狩人保護がメリットかもしれないけど、裏を返せば真も巻き込んで一手吊り手消費するってことでもあるよね。
というかローラーは灰考察疎かになる人が多くなるので嫌い。
決め打ちするぜ!くらいの漢気が見たい。
>>109 Otto
I have a qustion who think Nicolas is white(need not hang Villager-Pretender).
What is the merit of Villager-Pretender in villager-side?
I think there is no merit!
So Villager-Pretender is very black.
It's the reason enough to hang Villager-Pretender!
Next
Nicolas canceled Seer-CO before other people finished CO.
What was its merit???
No merit for the village-side! Equal to merit of werewolves!
Is it white?
If you said "Yes". I have no word to explain.
Well, My wish is
▼Nicolas ●Peter, same as the temporally wish.
ま、ニコラスが黒いのは騙り撤回以外にシモンから質問攻めに遭ってて灰考察が進まないという主張かな。
というか私は質問されつつ灰考察をなんとかまとめてた身なんで余計にそれが黒く見えるわけなんだが。
良くしゃべるけど言い訳多くないかい?
Yet, there are many silent people who are hard to think about, it is one way to use prophesy to give another point of thinking.
Anyway, I have no idea leaving Nicolas without using either rope or prophesy today...
...I think I am saying this every day.
Sorry I'm late.
>>20
If do hunter CO, by vote is good idea.
>>37
gray roller? hmm, there are 5 rope, and 7 gray.
wolf's atack may be gray shrimp.
If no attack then rope is added.
But this idea by Simon is not wolf.
I think he is werewolf, therfor gray roller can't do.
Rascal Dieterは、Woundedsoldier Simon を投票先に選びました。
>>45
ya, it is possible Simson and Simon both wolf.
them only one wolf in gray.
otherwise two wolf in gray, isnt it?
>>47
It is possible. But not exact.
I dought Simon is wolf, and Nicolas is also.
But other case must think.
I'm home now.
>Otto
I'm sorry that I cannot make it the time: 22:30. I'll start from now...
ぷちヴァルターの主張に全面同意。(>>1:+33)
私も経験してるから、その辺は。
特に、これは文章だから聞き逃しだのなんだのはないし安心。
ぷちゲルトへ一言。(>>1:+32)
そもそも英語って半角文字だから、結局は普段発言している分と同じくらいか少ないpt消費になると思うよ…?
>>74
【village pretending is a very big BLACK point for me】
I agree.
>>102
I agree.
次回の英語村は翻訳サイト使用禁止にでもすればいいんだよ!
ただし辞書使用はOKで。流石にそれがなかったら死ぬ。
赤ログも英語縛りとかでも面白いかもね。勿論灰と墓ログは日本語OKとかの方がいいよ。
王様の耳はロバの耳ー!とかそんな感じの叫びをしたくなることあるし。
I'm home.
Dieter>>77 > I will write answer for your question.
I will do... why change GS(easly) → read rog → answer onother question → grey analys(deep)(it is your questions answer deep version)
I charenge finish in today. Please wait me.
>>107
(1)Today GJ is occured, if Otto is hunter, black output is become he is sham
(2)I don't know. I only fortune tell by coordinater's opinion.
(3)I can't read what you want. please ask me other words.
ところで私の書いてた英文はどの程度理解されてたんだろうね。
翻訳サイトは使ってないんだけど。ああ、辞書とぐぐるせんせーでの単語検索はやったよと自己申告。
I'm writing response to Albin and I'd like to make pro-decision around 22:45.
OK?
>Nicolas
I have read your answer, thank you. >>3:65>>3:66>>3:67 I appreciate you that you spent long time for me.
Frankly speaking, I feel favorable impression for your atittude, you spoke well yesterday, and your remarks seemed to have many acceptable points for me, except for the sence of villager-pretending.
So, here, villager-pretending.
I think our sence are different each other. I can understand your opinion about your pretending a little, STILL for me, the disadvantage is much bigger. You said "in this special village", however I also feel that "in this village" the villagers sould not pretend.
>>128 Katharina
My >>107(3) means:
Consider your rivalry (Simon) is a Werewolf; who do you think he consults with in the CRIMSON-LOG?
>>129
I agree.
my opinion
▼Nicolas because villager-pretender
●Thomas because he was silent, so I can't judge he from his word.
流石に狂人ニート過ぎると思ってしまう。
オットーは確かに偽黒出しにくいのかもしれないが…。
だったらクララで出せばよかったのに。
>>Albin
I've read your >>117 and >>118.
I don't think that Villager-pretender always brings us merits ----- perhaps he/she often brings us demerits ----- and so I don't like Villager-pretender.
But, on the other hand, he/she believes it leads to some merits to us; and at this case, we've got some more information about Seers, especially Simon, because of Nicolas as a Villager-pretender.
I think this is merit of the Villager, even if it can be afterthought.
So I don't agree with you.
As for the cancel-time, it's true that his cancellation was bad-timing.
But there are some people who force him to cancel pretending.
Especially Dieter, perhaps, said "cancel AS SOON AS POSSIBLE."
I think it's difficult to keep pretending unless he is stubborn.
What do you think of this?
>>135 Clara
I don't mention about when you say your ●▼ desire.
If you don't want to be made availabled for the Werewolves, you can say your desire later.
today I want to see Nicolas by my prophesy more than to hang him.
There are not medium now.
Some people think Nicolas as the wolf strongly.
And some people believe his white strongly.
Even if Nicolas is hung tonight, we cannot get more information about Nicolas, and each villager has their differebt thinking about Nicolas till the end.
I am warrying that this lack of public consensus about Nicolas can cause the Chaos at the final phase.
So we had better get the Prophesy result about Nicolas.
>>136 Otto
I never agree with you,too!
It's time of pre-decision!
Baker Ottoは、Rascal Dieter を投票先に選びました。
About Albin
I referd about him yesterday>>3:261
Today I feel more black immpression from him.
I doubt that Albin knowingly act as the simple, shortsighted man, and doing erroneous rock-on.
そういえばクララくらいの文章量が優しいっていうけど。
思考プロセスの書かれていない結論ほど混乱するものはないよと強く主張。
結構そういう人多くて閉口。
Where is Otto?
The pre-decision time has already passed!!!
【PRO-DECISION: ●Nicolas ▼Albin】
I've considered of lynching Nicolas, as some of you desired, but now there is no Medium.
I think lynching him has more demerits than merits.
Because he has a very UNIQUE situation ----- he says he is a Villager and pretended Seer ----- and it's PRICELESS INFORMATION to us.
Why don't you identify him by another way ----- PROPHECY?
And, as for Albin, I think his limited views of Nicolas is very BLACK.
He seems to be too quick to jump to HIS OWN conclusion; I cannot see making inferences from his records.
I think a person with no educt is black.
Baker Ottoは、Merchant Albin を投票先に選びました。
Now I can't cited (because of time!),
Some people said that seers are composed of werewolfe and genuine. I have read their opinion, and feel it sounds logical.
I have thought Katharina is more possess than werewolf, but now my thinking was changed by their opinion.
Additionally, I think Simson is more genuine, so Liza is possess, and naturally Katharina is wolf.
She wants to hang Nicolas today, I feel it too much line-cutting if Katharina and Nicolas are both werewolves.
【Albin, if you want to avoid to be lynched, you CAN (not"MUST") take Guardian-coming-out.】
【I'll make Final-decision at 23:30.】
I'm sorry for late pre-decision.
Dieter>>77
1day & 2day: I was worried. Seer & Medium are TrueTrueWerwolfsPossess or TrueTrueWerwolfsWerwolfs. and Nicolas is Werwolfs or Possess or Village.
I don't understand.because grey analys & GS use only there word.
and I doubt Nicolas werwolfs or possess in the 2day ealy.
but I read Nicolas word>>2:115.
Change my idea Nicolas is werwolfs → maybe village ?
If Nicolas is village,he is very nice SG.
Werwolfs hope SG. I read rog, who do SG Nicolas.
3day: I get infomation "Liza is human(true or possess)" I am start Line consideration.
and keep idea "Who do SG Nicolas"
Dieter & Albin have passion hanging village-pretend.espesially Albin.
I don't have passion.because i don't trace ther idea. werwolfs make SG ? or village hate village-pretender ?
but Albin & Dieter, If they are werwolfs. Storong opinion is denger. look like stealth werwolf Jacob.
because todays my hope ▼Jacob ▽Albin ●Albin ○Dieter
I will read rog & answer any question.
after grey analys. please wait me. and If you don't understand,please ask me.
【I never agree with Otto's decision!】
【I am a hunter!】
3rd day I guarded Simon. Because I thought Simon is true. But, It was my mistake.
Today, I guarded Clara. Because we need white person of the coordinator!
gray analusys
[Albin]rocking type.
is this natural? or consciously?
Hmm...Ive checked the pro decision.
I will not oppose strongly.
The reason is that we will know something about Nicolas, and Albin himself is not so white.
Yet, I do prefer opposite for ▼● better.
Wei!! Nicolas!!!
/*
You should write lover letter to someone [[allwho ]] at he ep!
*/
I request to change the coordinator!
>>149 insults me!!!
In addition to >>146:
I've made efforts to bring out Albin's backyard-thinking (means the way to his conclusion), but I failed ----- I've get none of his analogism.
>>147 Nicolas
Oops, JAPANESE!!!
I see your business...
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