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【墓】 Oldman Moritz

ただいまじゃよ。
今日は吊りには迷わんじゃろうのぅ。神父より先にニコを吊る手もあるかもじゃが、昨日リズを吊っとるし、今日は神父じゃろう。
占い先をどうするかじゃな。片白になっても灰に戻せる人が良いじゃろうかのぅ。

んで、ディが全体灰考察らしきものを始めとるな。内容はまだ見とらんが、頑張るのぅ。ww

( +13 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:11:22

Farmer Jacob

■1&2 Single purpose consideration

Katarina:Possess>Seeress

Because she looks passive for the Gray

Simon:SEER=Werewolf>Possess

Because he thinks defiantly


Zurason:MEDIUM=Werewolf>>>>Possess

It has already described.

( 95 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:11:33

【墓】 Oldman Moritz

>>+12 peti-Walter
www 確かにうまいことを言うのぅ。まとめサイトの用語集に追記したらどうかのぅ。

( +14 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:15:31

Farmer Jacob

■3.Rascal Dieter
When he is a wolf, I am unpleasant.

If he is following me by the wolf, I will be used.

( 96 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:17:16

Rascal Dieterは、Father Simson を投票先に選びました。


Farmer Jacob

■3.Merchant Albin

Albin>>58 was impressive for me.

I am opposite to priority and the execution of Nicholas from Zurason.

If Simson and Sam are wolves, the judgment of the lie might be put out to villager Nicholas.

( 97 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:19:47

Rascal Dieterは、Woundedsoldier Simon を能力(守る)の対象に選びました。


Farmer Jacob

........>>97 Sam=Albin!!! 

I forgot replacing the name and having put it on the translation machine.

orz

( 98 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:23:03

Rascal Dieter

>>96 Jacob
Unpleasant if I am the werewolf?
Did something of my speech made you feel unhappy?
If so, then I have to apologize(althou I am not the werewolf).

( 99 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:23:22

Father Simson

■3.Gray analysis
Dieter
Yesterday he was silent a little.
But, today he talk well his opinion with his prossess.
I glad to hear his gray analysis. He looks like so white than yesterday.

Peter
He speak very well, and I can understand what he says.
But, I can't agree something about the Seer's analysis.
He said Katharina is looks like true because "situation consideration and her word".
But she talked looks like true word? I don't think so.
She was silent yesterday, and I can't understand she want to prophesy silent person yet.
If prophesy result split, she can identifies the white a viewpoint for her? I can't believe it.
And so, I have a litle doubt Peter.
I want to prophesy him.

( 100 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:26:05

【赤】 Father Simson

サムって誰だよ…(笑)

( *43 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:26:28

【赤】 Father Simson

翻訳ソフトの英語は結構不自然だし、単語繋いで文章にした方が結構伝わりいい気がするよ。どうかな?

( *44 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:27:02

【赤】 Farmer Jacob

いわないで・・・ orz

( *45 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:27:16

【赤】 Farmer Jacob

ああうん そうおもう

だから 文章は短く、を連発の方向でこころがけてるよー
長文疲れるww

( *46 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:27:45

Farmer Jacob

>>99 Dieter

I am not deeply reading proceedings because I was not able to take the time at the first day.

I feel that my reasoning is imperfect dabe.



.........Does it transmit by this explanation?

( 101 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:28:03

【赤】 Father Simson

実はワタシも長文すごい苦手なんだ…。
一日目、ニコラスの出した長文は三行読んで読解を投げたのは内緒だ。

( *47 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:28:52

Farmer Jacob

a----

My explanation is not good.

In a word, Dieter looks white.
It is because of agreeing.

( 102 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:30:27

Father Simson

■3.Gray analysis
(continue about Peter)
He wrote gray scale without reason. Why?
He was busy? I want to know prossess. I feel difficult to read opinion from only gray scale.

Thomas
Today, he is moderate. And he analysis well about Seer and Medium.
He analysis some pattern about us.
It is very good style. He looks like white at this point.
But, this pattern is very difficult to read.
Please, don't shorten our name.
And, please write gray analysis.
Conclusion:just gray

( 103 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:38:13

Rascal Dieter

>>102 Jacob
Thanks. Now, I think I understood.

( 104 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:38:34

【赤】 Father Simson

あーもうめんどくさー!
灰考察死ぬほどめんどくさー!

( *48 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:38:59

Traveler Nicolas

>>73, >>74 Dieter

" It is because I DON'T LIKE village pretender!"

Dieter,
You are not logical.

CO became 2-2.
In 2-2, the real thing is two people. Pretenders are two people.

pretenders is either.
A/ 2Werewolf.
B/ 1Werewolf ― 1Possess.

Did you think that I am Werewolf and I would cancel Pretend ?
Werewolf never cancel of Pretend.
Also if I am Possess, I doesn't cancel according to your advice.
He wait to become 3-2 or 3-1.

( 105 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:42:40

Traveler Nicolas

Do you make me vegetable breakfast by your likes and dislikes?
I had revolt you. It apologizes.

However, I think that it is not good that you use villager's rope by likes and dislikes.
Villager really have a dislike for Pretend.
More than other villages.

I did not notice that problem for a long time.

Dieter。
Is not my word transmitted to you?

( 106 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:42:49

Traveler Nicolas、 Everyday Hissi Otsu !!!

( A9 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:44:47

【墓】 Oldman Moritz

『鉄板:Iron plate』を追記してきたぞぃww

( +15 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:50:50

Shepherdess Katharina

>>105 Nicolas
Many person thik that.
So, your cancel appeal "I am not a warewolf".
But I dought it is only appeal.

( 107 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:51:40

Rascal Dieter

>>106 Nicolas
What I am trying to say is that
"I can't see you as the gray without using prophesy or the rope".
Adding, I don't rather care about someone saying "If I am a wolf I won't do this".
About you, I don't think you are a possess, but I do doubt you as a werewolf.
Wolves need not always be logical, and you can't say "never never cancel of Pretend".
We just don't know that.

( 108 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:52:16

Woundedsoldier Simon

I.....I'm home...now.... ミ(ノ_ _)ノ

Since the last confirmation of last might,
I havn't been able to read the log at all.

I'll read from now.....

( 109 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:54:00

【墓】 Oldman Moritz

しかし、みんな頑張るのぅ。さすがにPointを使い切るとこまではいかんようじゃが。

終盤、人数が少なくなれば、全員1000Pくらい使っても読み切れるかもしれんのぅ。今それをやるととてもじゃないが、わしには…。

( +16 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:54:57

Father Simson

■3.Gray analysis
Jacob
His words is very short and I can read his opinion and conclusion very well.
But, I want more reason why you think about it. Please.
He is gray with little white.

Otto
He talks very well and he analysis deep. It is very interesting, because he has his own viewpoint.
But, I want to hear your opinion about gray Werewolf. You didn't many analysis about other gray person.
Just gray.

( 110 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:55:33

Rascal Dieter

They may sometimes do unlogical things.
You say "If I am wolf, I don't cancel", but it is us who think of.
Village Pretending is(at least for me) act of helping werewolves, and never reduces his/her possibility by doing that.
So, I can't stop seeing you black without at least prophesy.

( 111 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:55:54

Woundedsoldier Simon、I'm tired.......sleepy............  (o_ _)o

( A10 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:55:56

【赤】 Father Simson

ワタシも眠いよ。(笑)
しかし灰考察って英語でやるの一番めんどい気がする…。

( *49 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:57:26

Rascal Dieter

>>111
×never reduces his/her possibility by doing that.
○never reduces his/her possibility【of werewolf】 by doing that.

( 112 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:58:10

Librarian Clara

Now 22:00
Please ●▼.

( 113 ) 2009/04/13(月) 21:59:16

Shepherdess Katharina

●Nicolas
▼Simson

( 114 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:07:12

Baker Otto

[Biscotti with a letter.]
Oh, noooooooooo!!!!! I'm in trouble.
I'm sorry I'm so busy that I cannot be present at today's decision.
I'll be back at 4 or 5 in the morning...

( 115 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:08:03

Father Simson

■3.Gray analysis
Nicolas
He done a big noise because he cancel pretend.
He canceled Seer CO and he talked about his behavior very well.
But, only it. He didn't many analysis about gray.
I feel it's very serious black point. And I can't find his white point.
So, I can't leave him. I want to hang or prophesy.

Albin
He is just moderate. And his main analysis is Seer and Medium. Please show your opinion about gray wolf.

Fridel
I can't analysis today's word. Please analysis anything.

( 116 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:09:18

【赤】 Father Simson

発言増えてない面々の考察は流石に無理だ…!

( *50 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:10:45

【独】 Baker Otto

ごごごごめんなさい。
急な体調不良で休むしかない状態きたこれorz

1つだけツッコミ入れると、ここでの「鉄板」=間違いない、確実だっていう意味になると思うので、そういう英語を使うのがいいと思うのですよ。
iron plateは確かに鉄板ではあるけど笑えるw

( -29 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:11:33

【墓】 Onlooker peti-Walter

【まとめサイトの鉄板】確認 非対抗

ぶっちゃけ皆の英文が頭に入ってきません
クララくらいの発言量が一番脳に優しいです

( +17 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:13:24

Father Simson

■4.●▼
●Peter
▼Nicolas
If can't hang Nicolas, ▼Thomas because he analysis about us, but he didn't make conclusion his question point.(>>45 >>46 >>53) It looks like black.
(If ▼Thomas,●Nicolas)

( 117 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:16:14

Father Simson、I'm so tired Patrasche.......

( A11 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:17:19

Traveler Nicolas

>Dieter
>Katharina

My hope is to know about Dieter.
Because I thought he is Werewolf.

My white is next・・・

( 118 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:17:30

Librarian Claraは、Father Simson を投票先に選びました。


【赤】 Father Simson

灰考察めんどくさー!
超めんどくさー!

というかクララがまとめって不安を感じないのか皆。
正直ワタシが灰だったら不安すぎてリコールかけてるぞ。

( *51 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:18:56

Littleboy Peter

Im home ! I will read "ROGU" & answerd question.

Please wait me !

( 119 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:20:03

Father Simson、Mission Complete. I have some break time, please.**

( A12 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:20:33

【赤】 Father Simson

ログくらい英語で書こうよ…(笑)

( *52 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:20:58

Littleboy Peter

Thomas > Thank you and sorry. I could not wait you.

Nicolas > OK. I wait you. I hope read your gray analyz.

( 120 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:22:25

【独】 Shepherdess Katharina

why Patrasche, now.

( -30 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:22:57

【独】 Rascal Dieter

メタな予想だとヤコブ狼なんだけどねw
Samがコードネームなのだ! っていう。

( -31 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:24:09

【赤】 Father Simson

拙くてもいいから理由はきちんと説明しよう。
理由かっ飛ばして吊り占い希望出されても困る…!(・x・)

( *53 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:24:10

【独】 Shepherdess Katharina

프랑 다스의 개라고 하는 것은 아는데

( -32 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:24:41

Woundedsoldier Simon

from the viewpoint of【Liza's white by Simson】

I was a litte surprised by this result.
Because I thought the Medium candidaters were composed of genuine and the wolf, and Simon is much more like a genuine than Liza.
I didn't found any white impression from Liza, since she was very silent, yesterday she only made one greeting. Actually I don't want to believe she is genuine.
So I thought she is sham, and because I thought Katharina is possess, I had the expectation that her hunging result by Simson is black.

However in deed, Simson said that Liza is white.

If Simson is genuine medium, Liza is possess, and Katharina is the wolf.
This is a little surprising for me.

And If, to my regret, Liza is genuine medium, I think Simson is the wolf.
because for me, Katharina seems more like possess.

But Simson himself seems genuine medium for me when just looking at only him without other people's infrmation.

( 121 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:25:18

Woundedsoldier Simon、too long............orz

( A13 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:25:39

Woundedsoldier Simon

>>121 mistake

×that her hunging result by Simson
○that Liza's hunging result by Simson

( 122 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:26:50

Woundedsoldier Simon

>>121 one more mistake
×Simon is much more like a genuine than Liza
○Simson is much more like a genuine than Liza

( 123 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:29:17

【独】 Shepherdess Katharina

>>121
I think so too.

( -33 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:30:28

Woundedsoldier Simon、I find many many spelling mistakes in my remark. orz

( A14 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:30:49

Traveler Nicolas

>116 Simson

I can't ■3.
because of answer to Simon's question spent many many time.
His question always so difficult for me!!

I'm so tired ,but continue to work.....

( 124 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:31:57

【墓】 Oldman Moritz

ログ読んでまともに反応しようとしたが、半分読む頃には頭に入らんくなるのぅ。
それと、みんな発言からの白黒は追い辛いので、状況考察が多目じゃな。

これで真偽や白黒を予想せいというのが無理なのかものぅ。出来る人には出来るんか?

( +18 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:32:00

Traveler Nicolas

>>116

Sorry,Simson.

( 125 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:32:40

Littleboy Peter

Dieter>>63 > Todays my hope ●Dieter ○Jacob ▼Simson ▽Simon (>>48)OK?

We have hunging rope a little.
I hope it use werwolfs. I don't hope it use noize & silent.
Noize & silent. if use choice. I choice prophesy.not hunging.OK?

I can't understand Nicolas. but I think Nicolas is village.>>2:144>>2:173

and I doubt you.>>2:188>>2:214
but I dont hope use hunging rope to you.If you are village.
I dont hope use hunging rope Nicolas. If he are village too.

( 126 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:34:13

【墓】 Oldman Moritz

今日の占いは大事じゃのぅ。そろそろ狼に当たっても良い頃じゃのぅ。
明日の吊りはパンダもしくはニコか。占い師襲撃があれば残った方は吊りじゃな。

状況次第で狩人の投票COでの灰狭めも検討すべきじゃな。明日か明後日か。今のところ、墓の狩候補はわしだけじゃな。

( +19 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:36:15

Shepherdess Katharina

>>121
Simpson says I or Simon is warewolf.
But I am seeress, so Simon is warewolf.

( 127 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:36:17

【赤】 Father Simson

Simpsonって誰…?(・x・)

( *54 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:37:31

Traveler Nicolas

I stop use 『Excite』and『dictionary』.
It use many many time …!!

■4.■1.●▼

▼Father Simson
●Albin ○Jacob

Please wait...I account for

( 128 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:38:09

【赤】 Father Simson

纏め役がクララだしなあ。
ワタシが吊られそうだ、今日は。

あー、でもニコラス吊られてくれんかなあ。
クララってニコラス疑ってなかったっけ。

( *55 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:41:23

Father Simsonは、Woundedsoldier Simon を能力(襲う)の対象に選びました。


【墓】 Oldman Moritz

>>127
ん、(神父さん+Simson)/2=Simpson かのぅ。

( +20 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:41:50

【赤】 Father Simson

あ、そうそう。一応シモンを喰うつもりでいる。
やっぱりカタリナ真はないな。
これでシモン狂なら驚くが、それならそれで真印象取りお疲れさんだな。

( *56 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:42:46

Woundedsoldier Simon

I want ▼or● Nicolas tonight anyway.

Because Simson seems genuine medium than the wolf, I want rather to see Simson's medium result than to hung him.

But I cannot completely throw out the opinions of the people who don't like to stop roller.

But I can't leave Nicolas anyway.

So when Nicolas is not hung tonight, I want identify him by my prophesy.

( 129 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:43:32

【墓】 Oldman Moritz

クララは時間通りに現れるじゃろうかのぅ。ちーと心配じゃが…。
まぁでも、たくさん喋る人より、余り喋らない人を占った方が良いと思ったんじゃ。何票かは入っておったしのぅ。

( +21 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:44:11

【赤】 Father Simson

霊ローラー嫌い。
ローラーが安全策だなんて誰が提唱したんだ厄介な。

( *57 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:45:10

Sister Fridel

I'm back!!



.........o...rz

Not read...Sorry...

( 130 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:45:40

【墓】 Onlooker peti-Walter

今日は▼ジムゾン●トーマスで希望出しをしてみる
理由:霊ローラー+ジムゾンがトーマスを疑ってるみたいだから、ジムゾン真と狼の仲間切りの可能性を観てみた

( +22 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:47:22

【独】 Sister Fridel

また身内に「あんたまた人狼なんかやって!」なんていわれた…orz
あんにゃろう自分の事は棚に上げくさって…っと、いけないいけない…!

( -34 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:47:30

【独】 Sister Fridel

{15悪魔:正}

ちなみに投票デフォはペタさんです…w

( -35 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:48:14

【赤】 Father Simson

そういえば、シモンでGJが出て、なおかつ狩人が出たらシモンが人狼でない=カタリナ偽疑惑が出てきてそれはそれでおいしい気がするね。

( *58 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:49:02

【赤】 Father Simson

ああ、日本語ってなんて喋りやすいんだ…!
ビバ日本語。

( *59 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:49:30

Littleboy Peter

Dieter>>93 > I look like black Thomas.but Line say Thomas white.i think.
Line is Simon or Simson.(>>47>>51)

( 131 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:50:50

【赤】 Father Simson

つか、ラインで判断するのって危険じゃないか?
そういうのは終盤でやればいいと思うんだ。

( *60 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:53:12

Sister Fridel

●Nicolas○Peter○Otto
▼Simson▽Nicolas

Sorry...very very sorry...
I controverts also outside the village...

( 132 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:56:45

Traveler Nicolas

■3.
『Dieter』
However, I change my opinion.
He look like as a human now.
Because I know his personality now.
I thought that he is very logical man.

However, he looks also like an emotional person now.
It might be his both sides.

I might have been suspecting him more because I was very good at his English.
He might have led the village, and in a bad direction.

I thought that.
But my opinion has changed.
I see more about him, if I alive tomorrow.

【Gray】

( 133 ) 2009/04/13(月) 22:58:04

Sister Fridel

It is necessary to complete the roller because it started.
It is necessary to judge Nicolas. Or, it is necessary to do Hanging.
As for Peter, I am connected with the line. If it is a wolf, it is dangerous.
Otto is anxious as said yesterday.

( 134 ) 2009/04/13(月) 23:02:43

Sister Fridel、 I read log!

( A15 ) 2009/04/13(月) 23:03:17

Woundedsoldier Simon

The reason that I am so nervous with Nicolas

Basically I don't like villager-pretending.

What's more, here is English village.

From the start, we can forecast that we have a lot of difficulty to communicate each other, and we have to use limitted hunging ropes and prophesy for the people who can't speak well.

15 people village, poor communication, limitted prophesy and ropes.

But Nicolas, in this inconvenient situation, behaved very noisy, and naturally some people doubt of him, and that he cannot persuade the white of his own to the other people.

If he is a villager, he had to persuade other people during 1-2 day.

If he cannot persuade due to his skill, he should not pretend.

Indeed, for him, the prophesy or the hunging will be consumed.

( 135 ) 2009/04/13(月) 23:04:07

Littleboy Peter

Simson>>100 > I charenge speak my idea.

Katharina said "I don't know 15 person village's ceory."(>>1:156)
I think she is begginer.
Begginer don't have skill grey analyze.
Her's word and doing consistant.i see.


Katharina > Sorry i say your begginer. I have English word a little.

( 136 ) 2009/04/13(月) 23:05:43

【墓】 Oldman Moritz

なんか、みんな1発言が、長くなってきとらんかのぅ。演説じゃなぁ。ww

( +23 ) 2009/04/13(月) 23:06:36

Woundedsoldier Simon

I doubt that Nicolas aimed to this situation.

( 137 ) 2009/04/13(月) 23:07:23

Sister Fridelは、Father Simson を投票先に選びました。


Woundedsoldier Simon

▼Nicolas, ●not yet

If ▼Simson(I don't request this order!), ●Nicolas, anyway.

I havn't decided today's ●request when Nicolas is hunged tonight.

I feel....feel, very sleepy.....

please wait, I have to read.

( 138 ) 2009/04/13(月) 23:12:23

Littleboy Peter

Simson>>103 > I said prosess yestaday.(>>2:173>>2:188>>2:214)
Time>>47 dose not increase word. because I try Situation consideration & Line consideration.

You hope prosess. but Do you read my word ?

( 139 ) 2009/04/13(月) 23:16:37

【独】 Shepherdess Katharina

>>136
I think he know that I'm not begginer.

( -36 ) 2009/04/13(月) 23:17:21

【独】 Sister Fridel

確白:クラ、モリ
片白:リザ

ぁゃUレヽ:オト>トマ>ペタ>ニコ>アル>ディタ>>>ヤコ:(゚∀゚)

しかしヤコ=下駄だったら騙されている可能性があるし…ふーむ…

( -37 ) 2009/04/13(月) 23:21:09

Woundedsoldier Simon

I feel white impression from Peter.

I feel white impression from Fridel.

.....passion...

( 140 ) 2009/04/13(月) 23:21:33

【独】 Shepherdess Katharina

Sincely, I don't have skill grey analyze.
My skill is for how wolf to do.

( -38 ) 2009/04/13(月) 23:21:45

Woundedsoldier Simon

If Nicolas is hunged tonight, I want identify Otto or Thomas by my prophesy.

They claimed that Nicolas is white, I feel the line from this point.

( 141 ) 2009/04/13(月) 23:23:41

【独】 Woundedsoldier Simon

でもニコラスはとかく寡黙になりがちなこの村に、話さずにはいられないホットな風を巻き起こしてくれたエンターティナーかもしれない、とも思っている。

( -39 ) 2009/04/13(月) 23:25:30

Sister Fridel

>>140 Simon
You wanted to do Prophesy to me the other day.
Where did you feel white?
Please teach in case of being besides passion.

( 142 ) 2009/04/13(月) 23:26:07


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