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Farmer Jacob
Ideal development that thinks the ability person protection to be the first
(in 15 person village)
・The coordinator is fixed-MEDIUM
・SEER(RESS) is 3day Vote Come OUT
【墓】 Onlooker peti-Gerd
では、昨日のおさらいあたりから。
１．ロケット占い師COがカタリナ、対抗でジムゾンが占い師CO。続いてニコラス→シモンの順に占い師CO。
２．ジムゾンが占い師COを撤回して霊CO。
３．ニコラスが占い師COを撤回し、▼村騙りコールを浴びる。
【墓】 Onlooker peti-Gerd
議論の方は、カタリナのロケット占COした理由と、ニコラスが３人目で村騙りの占COをした理由が問われている。
他に、FO希望が多い中で、カタリナがFOに懸念を示し、霊は３日目投票COが良いと希望を出すが、それが何故良いのかをペーターから質問されています。
Littleboy Peter
Diter > now 2-2. & Moritz pure white.
You said >>1:167>>1:171.
How do you think about todays hunging?
Farmer Jacob
Hey Peter！
>>50
「I will think today hunging.Nicolas or Medium or Grey」
what？！？ｗｗｗ
・Nicolas
・Medium
・Grey
There are only SEERS and Moritz(White！) besides these dabe ｗｗｗ
Woodcutter Thomas
Good morning.poppo-
I checked Moritz is villeger and Liza's medium CO.
Littleboy Peter
Jacob>>53 > Excuceme www I worrie todays hunging.
Of cause Moritz not hunging ! ww
Littleboy Peter
2-2 True True Worwolfs Worwolfs. or True True Worwolfs Possess. I am worried. Nicolas annoy me !
By the way, I think so Katharina is not werwolf.
She say rocket CO & hope Hunter gurd. fast time.
now 2-2 I think she is not werwolf.If she pretend she is possess.
【墓】 Onlooker peti-Gerd
話が前後するけど、>>1:51でディーターが占い師に「撤回は無いか？」と問い、>>1:53シモンが「撤回しない」宣言。
>>1:56でジムゾンが占い師撤回し、霊CO。
Farmer Jacob
The maximum problem at the first day
・Zurason decided.
・Liza showed up after that.
・Zurason was not a fixed-MEDIUM.
and
・Moritz is not wolf
Littleboy Peter
Thomas > thank you >>1:265 you misunderstood i was surprised !:)
you understand. i am glad.
time up ! I will be back !
Farmer Jacob
If I think about the balance
It thinks whether one vote of Zurason should be invalidated today dabe.
Rascal Dieter
>>52 Petre
So that Moritz became pure white,
I am thinking of hanging Nicolas today.
I don't want to leave Nicolas without either SEE him or HANG him today.
Desiding which to choose, I would wait for Nicolas answer questions which others made.
Farmer Jacob
I am not because I say that Zurason is a pretender.
It is current and it might be even dabe
【独】 Shepherdess Katharina
/*
あれー？
雑談村では、ちゃんと多段ポップアップが働いている。
なんで、こっちでは動かないの？
内蔵時計をあわせようとしても、プロバイダがなぜか NTP をフィルタリングしているらしい罠。
PHSで繋げばNTPは通るけど。
*/
【墓】 Onlooker peti-Gerd
その後、ニコラスが占騙り撤回して、色々あってリーザが霊COして今に至る。
昨日のダイジェストを駆け足で紹介すると、こんなところ。
今日のダイジェストは、昨日占い先に決まったお爺ちゃんが確定白になり、待望のCoordinatorが出来る人誕生。
【墓】 Onlooker peti-Gerd
ニコラスは、狩人の可能性も十二分にあり得ますよ。
狩人は、少人数村では吊りはもちろん、占いも回避すれば人狼をかなり追いつめられます。
何故なら、人狼が灰襲撃しない限り狩人が生きていることは確定なわけですから、一度のGJで吊り手が増える偶数進行の村にとっては、人狼に対し相当なプレッシャーです。
回避で狩人が出てくれば、占いと吊りを使わず灰が一人減るので村が圧倒的に不利にはなりません。少人数村に良く当てはまる格言として、
【狩人は、時として相方のいない共有者の役目も果たす】と言うのがあります。
【墓】 Onlooker peti-Gerd
少人数村で村騙りをするのは、確定する可能性が高く、対抗が出てもローラーになることが多いので特に信用を気にしなくて居良いMediumか、対抗を出す要員がほとんどWerewolf側に無く、身元が保証されているFreemasonsと同じHunterの事が多いですね。
と、言う訳でニコラスは初回吊りには勿体ない人物ですね。
占２回目の占い当たりを充てるのがベストなんじゃないでしょうか。この場合は、ニコラスがHunterでも回避しない選択肢はあり得ますね。占い師襲撃されるかもしれないわけですし、確定白になればWerewolfのHunterPretenderによる回避を封じられます。
【墓】 Onlooker peti-Gerd
Time up!
がこの村で席を外す時の合い言葉みたいです。
と、言うわけで私もアレンジして
Time slip!
Traveler Nicolas
>>1:130 Peter
Yes, I answered Katharina 's question(>>1:120) as you had hoped.
(>>1:287)(>>1:292)
I accepted the advice of Albin with Dieter. And, I also thought about many, and hesitated.
Consequentially, the timing of my cancellation was very bad.
As you said, my thought is that fixed Medium have a bad influence on this village.
Werewolf is possible to consult at a speed that is faster
than the villager.
In addition, it is possible to consult about the attack. I think it is a threat of us.
Therefore, 2-2 was hoped for.
However, I have an idea different from you.
You said.
【2-1 or 2-2 or 3-1 choice Wer wolbs.】
I do not think like that. Is it my study shortage?
（→next）
Traveler Nicolas
(→from 64)＞Peter
In many cases, the wolf cannot immediately know the whereabouts of Possess.
The only thing that Werewolf can know about CO,
【is he or she Werewolf or Human.】
It is impossible that the wolf always manipulates the organization of Seer and Medium.
For me, your opinion is a doubt.
>>★ Littleboy Peter
I questions oppositely. Have you forgotten Possess?
The wolf might be not able to select it. why do you think so ?
I apologizes if other people were questioning on the same thing.
Oldman Moritz
Good afternoon everyone!
Both of seer and seeress confirmed that 【My soul is pure white!】
Oldman Moritz
The decision time is the same as yesterday.
【Provisional 11:30 / final 24:00 Earlier is better?】
Later than above is not acceptable. Because everyone wants to sleep well...
Oldman Moritz
>>6 Albin, Thank you for the agenda. It is OK!
Here is my answer!
■1. Simon is doubt! Katharina is doubt!
■2. Simson is doubt! Liza is doubt!
■3. Every gray is doubt!
■4. ●Pending ▼Pending
You are doubt! We are doubt!
Sister Fridel
Good afternoon...?! Oh,Gerd!!Gerd!!
...Jesus...!
I am sorry for suddenly disappearing for the other day...
Jacob>>40 verry verry thanks!
【Liza Medium CO】
【Moritz human】
【All Confirmation.I don't oppose.】
I read the log.
Shepherdess Katharinaは、Traveler Nicolas を投票先に選びました。
Shepherdess Katharina
>>67
O.K. I accept your opinion.
I will off from 17:00 to 22:00.
So I must say my hope before 17:00.
I'll read the log. wait please.
【独】 Sister Fridel
2-2 and Certain human.
I think that I decreased as the load of Hunter increased.
Seer or Medium first attack,seems to be able to run away...(Perhaps...)
■1.About the Seer(esse)s
■2.About the Mediums
■3.Gray analysis(more than 3 people)
■4.●▼
ログ読みめんどいです…
【独】 Sister Fridel
リナさん→シモさん→ジムさん→リザさん→ディさん→アルさん→ペタさん→トマさん→モリさん→オトさん
で読み進めていきましょう…最初に順番決めておいたほうが楽でしょう、ね…
外出せにゃならんかもしれません、よ…！
Shepherdess Katharina
>>33
/*
I want to use "property of time" in my machine, it failed.
Perhaps provider do filtering NTP
why? I don't know.
*/
Shepherdess Katharina
If Simson is true medium and Nicolas is true villeger, then the wolves can see three seer/ess is all human, so one of them is medium and one is villeger.
So, medium and villeger cancelled, my seeress was exact.
Then Simon is CO seer.
But, Nicolas's cancel was bad timing.
So I dought him.
In this case, they hope that villeger think two wolves don't pretend seer.
So I can't believe Simson is true medium, also Lisa.
Woundedsoldier Simon
poppo-
>Katharina >>71
I see.
I'm sorry to impose on you.
Thank you.
Shepherdess Katharina
Some person were silent, then I can't think about them.
The hanging lope is limited, It coud't hang them all.
My 'temporal' opinion
▼hang Nicolas because cancelling timing
●fortune tell. Clara because reticence
These are only temporal, after 22 o'clock, I represent.
Librarian Clara
>>15 Simson
"Now, I didn't fix. Do you think about more better way?"
I don't think that. But now Moritz is white he is more better.
Librarian Clara
>>15 Simson
"Why did you want to prophesy Otto? I want to know reason."
Log is difficult me. But Otto is ●Moritz after Final decision：●Moritz. So I think he is daught.
Librarian Clara
>>15 Simson
"Provisional and final decision was not same your opinion. Did you think about it?"
I daught Otto, and you daught Moritz.
I do not daught Moritz, but do not know he is wolf.
So I OK it.
Now Moritz is white and I daught you.
【墓】 Onlooker peti-Walter
Make up mind !
haiji > Clara is standing. Clara is standing.
Everyone request hero to be standing in ending.
Librarian Clara
■1.Katharina is daught(Possess) and Simon is True.
■2.Simson is daught(wolf) and Liza is true.
■3.Wait
■4.●Otto ▼Nicolas
Farmer Jacob
Boys and girls and Vegitable and Zura,
Good-Evening dabe！
I had thought before reading the record.
I think that I should protect the hunter today.
■4.▼Nicolas or MEDIUM
I feel that Nicholas are not hunter.
【墓】 Onlooker peti-Gerd
ニコラス>>1:91の長文を拙い英語力で解釈して要約を試みた。
※概要は、ニコラスが村騙りした理由について
（１）共有者がいないので、霊能者がまとめ役になれば良いと思った。
（２）少人数村で２−１の形になるのは不利だと思う。
（３）この村で村人は英語で話すが、人狼は日本語で話すので戦略を練ることができます。
（４）２−１になると人狼が真占い師を襲撃しやすくなります。
（５）私は、偽でも初回（占い師）襲撃してくると思います。
（６）２−２かそれ以上のCO状況に持って行き、占い師を初回襲撃から保護しようと思いました。（続く）
【墓】 Onlooker peti-Gerd
今日、ニコラスさんが▼村騙りでこちらに来たら、選手からのロッカー内インタビューを交えてお送りしたいと思っています。
ニコラスさんは、whichやthatといった接続詞をふんだんに使われて長文を打たれているので、かなり英語力がある人だと思います。（何か、これだけでニコラスさんの中身特定できてしまいそうですが）
【墓】 Onlooker peti-Gerd
ジムゾンさんはニコラスの長文に難色を示していますが、単語だけ拾っていっても大体の意味は通じるのでそれほど読解は難しくありません。
いかに、翻訳サイトが長文になるほど役に立たないかを示すため、>>1:91のニコラス長文を翻訳サイトで翻訳させてみました。
あまりにもちんぷんかんぷんな文章になったので、せっかくなのでさらします。
【墓】 Onlooker peti-Gerd
まず、フリーメーソンが出かけていなかったので、私は、それを修理した媒体が、今日のリーダーになったと思いました。
私は、しばしばそれが不利でしたが、村が今日の小さな村の2-1の形になることに関して不利であると思いました。
それは田舎風の話ですが、村人はこの村で英語で話します。 オオカミは日本語で話します。
オオカミは、それが多くの戦略についてセットアップされると思いました。
本物のSeer(または、Seeress)は、元々、2-1 およそたいへんAttackをしばしばすると思います。
最初に、偽者Attackになるように、より多くの準備をして、そうすることができますそれが、思う。
私が、2-2か以上の構成に行きたいと思ったので、最初に、AttackとSeer(または、Seeress)ingだけが保護されました。
それは続きます。
【墓】 Onlooker peti-Gerd
Freemasons had not gone out→フリーメーソンが出かけていなかったので（共有者が最初からいないのを、出かけてていないことになっている）
the medium who fixed→それを修理した媒体（霊能者の意味のMediumが媒体と訳されている）
最初の２行だけで突っ込み処満載ですが、翻訳サイトははっきり言って、あてにならないとだけ言っておきます。
【墓】 Onlooker peti-Gerd
霊ローラー開始するなら、今日やらないと間に合わない。
今日、灰吊りするなら占い師襲撃が無かった時にどこかの能力者決め打ちが必要。
よって、今日はMediumかVillager PretenderのニコラスHangingのどちらかになるでしょう。
Woundedsoldier Simon
poppo-
I'm sorry that I'll come back a little late, around 22:00.
In my present (temporary) feeling, I want to request today's ▼ from the gray people, permitting avoidance by hunter CO.
Merchant Albin
【I confirmed Moritz is white】
Moritz's soul isn't pure white!
But, It's fixed that Moritz is village side person.
I agree with that Moritz become the coordinator.
Farmer Jacob
■2.
If Zurason is a wolf, other wolves should be good at concealment.
Because Zurason's declaration was early dabe.
It is risky to put out yesterday's decision when Zurason is Possess. Because Moritz's true colors is not understood dabe.
Rascal Dieterは、Traveler Nicolas を投票先に選びました。
Farmer Jacob
■2.
If Lisa was a wolf, the soul was fixed-MEDIUM.
There are possibilities of wolves in a word not good at the line switching off.
Farmer Jacob
orz
>>88 ← I made a mistake！
Possess : × Zurason ○ Liza
Werewolf：○ Zurason ○ Liza
Rascal Dieter
I'm sorry I don't think I can stay awake till todays final decision.
Arround 22:00-23:00 will be my deadline.
Anyway, I will drop my thoughts about Mediums.
Rascal Dieter
About Medium...
Saying from Liza's CO timing, I think it will be difficult to do it if she is a werewolf.
So, if she is not the medium, I think she is possess.
Thinking her as a possess, her CO can be explained as her disliked the Medium to be fixed.
Farmer Jacob
>>91 Hi Dieter！I also think so dabe！
It might say from timing and be unnatural in that opinion if it thinks usually by agreement as the wolf.
At the same time,
If CO was not done when Lisa was a wolf, it might have been execution first time dabe.
Sister Fridel
Sorry...I'm later...
2-2 and Certain human.
I think that I decreased as the load of Hunter increased.
Seer or Medium first attack,seems to be able to run away...(Perhaps...)
Sister Fridel
■2.
The deception might have only come simply if Simson was a wolf.
When Liza was a wolf, fixation might have been feared.
However, it is forecast the hesitation of Hunter more than the state of 2-2 if it is 2-1.
It is Seer of the uncertainty though is useful.
Medium as Coordinator.
Which does Guard do?
Do I think too much?
The possibility of Liza is a wolf cannot be thrown away.
In that case, Liza appeared to help someone.
Moreover, the possibility that the wolf lurks in Seer cannot finish being thrown away.
The possibility of Liza is Possess or Villager also.
I thinks simply feel the possibility of Simson is a wolf high.
At present, I am looking only at the situation.
Rascal Dieter
I already told that to me, Katharina looks like the possess. So, I am looking Liza as the true Medium.
Yet, this guess is mainly from situation, so I need to look more about seers and mediums.
【赤】 Father Simson
灰からだったら素でクララを吊りたいね。
結論ありきで仮定がすっ飛んでて普通に黒く見えるんだが。
とそれはさておき、リーザが吊られたら元々白を出す心算でいたよ。
とりあえず、先吊りだけは免れたいね。
そういう意味では、別にニコラス吊りになっても構わないのだが。
Rascal Dieter
>>92 Jacob
>latter part
I do agree that latter part too.
Liza seems very busy, and today, we can't see her yet aslike yesterday.
If she did'n Co as the Medium, so that she is silent, we may have hanged her, I guess.
【赤】 Merchant Albin
doubtは動詞じゃないよ。みんななぜか動詞だと思って使っているけどｗ
リーザに白判定は同意。そのほうがいいだろうね。
Rascal Dieter
By the way, I would say that I am a bit confused about Simon's stance.
I thought he thinks Villager-pretending really BLACK so that he can't see Nicolas without prophesy.
Though, he didn't set Nicolas as the 1st day's prophesy.
SO I thought he is thinking of hanging Nicolas today, but today he is speaking of hanging grays(>>84).
★Simon
Why do you changed mind about Nicolas? Or, are you thinking of using prophesy to him today? I wish you to explain about it.
【赤】 Father Simson
うん。絶対おかしいと思って調べてみたら案の定。（笑）
そうそう、今日の襲撃について意見があれば聞きたい。
狩人のガード抜きで面倒なところを消すとか、確定白のモーリッツ老を消すとかでも構わないけれど。
占い師狼じゃね？で占い師ローラーがかかればおいしいのだけどねぇ。
Merchant Albin
■1.About the Seer(esse)s
Maybe genuine-werewolf>genuine-possess
The reason is Medium-analysis.
If Katharina is not true, maybe Katharina is Possess. Because Rocket-CO.
If Simon is not true, maybe Simon is werewolf.
■2.About the Mediums
Now, I think Wigman-Simson is true. Because Liza is the most silent person, so I can't judge her.
On the assumption of Simson-true Medium, Liza'CO feel incompatibility.
Wigman-Simson slid the Seer to the Medium.
Aspect of werewolves, werewolves can select to hide all werewolves. I have no idea why werewolves pretended the Medium.
So, I think Possess pretended the Medium.
【削除】 Woundedsoldier Simon
poppo-
>Dieter
I think Nicolas is also gray, isn't it?
Merchant Albin
So, I think that the genuine Seer is Katharina and not-true Seer is Simon. And maybe Simon is werewolf.
And I think that the genuine Medium is Wigman-Simson and not-true Medium is Liza. Maybe Liza is Possess.
Baker Otto
[Biscotti with a letter]
>>80 Clara
I think I said ●Moritz before final decision... (See >>1:239, >>1:244, and >>1:256)
Did you want to say ''PROVISIONAL decision''?
And why do you want to lynch Nicolas today?
I found the reason you doubt me, but I've not found why you doubt Nicolas.
If you doubt me more certainly than Nicolas, I wonder you'll say ▼Otto, not ●.
Please tell me why in your own words.
Woundedsoldier Simon
poppo-
>Dieter
I think Nicolas is also gray, isn't he?
Merchant Albin
We don't have enough information, so I'm not convinced my analysis.
One of the reason why I'm not convinced is the villager-pretend!!!
▼Villager-Pretender!
Rascal Dieter
I don't think I can speak much anymore, so I would present my wish now.
As my wish...
▼Nicolas ●Fridel
I don't think the hunter will pretend as a Seer, so this decision would be good to protect hunter.
...Well. I agree Jacob, man.
About Fridel, I still have a difficulty to find out what she is saying, so I have to apologize that I may have misread her speech,
but I have a feeling that she speaks a lot about guarding someone, which seems to me as seeking the hunter.
Rascal Dieter
>>101 Simon
Yes, Nicolas is one of the gray.
But yesterday, you strongly appealed that you think Villager-pretending is BLACK, and spoke rather lot about Nicolas.
Today, you haven't rahter touched about him, and spoke of hanging grays.
I thought you are setting Nicolas at diffrent possition(as a person whove done Villager-pretending), so it was my question you not try to hang(or prophesy) him today.
Rascal Dieter
So, if you are saying gray including Nicolas, it is OK, but still I have to ask this;
★Simon
What do you think you should do about Nicolas?
Woundedsoldier Simon
poppo-
>Dieter
In my sense, The category of villager-pretender doesn't exist. Nicolas is gray, but much nearer black. So I call him gray.
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