1830 【誰歓】忘年会・クリパ・新年会【ゆるがち】
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[メモ記入/メモ履歴] / 発言欄へ
【フェオン】 ルビーナ
>>8893
単純にフラ続けてるから、賑やかし陣営にまわって楽しんでいるだけ……だけれど。
春陽さんのようなタイプはイライラする莫大なエネルギーを食って燃費が悪いからしたくない所。
ふんわりしている方がラクだもの。
燃費と精神的にラクな方に行きたいわ。
そうね。前も挙がっていたけれど、ジルがマラソンランナーなら私はスプリンタータイプ。根本的に長期人狼適正が低いとおもっているから、更に省エネ志向になるの。
【にっける】オートマタ サレナ
狐さんの考えにも一理あるというか。
照狂は狼利に動く（縄稼ぎ）というのもわかるし、魚…は終盤まで生きていたらRPP要因うんぬんは素直に村マッハだと思うし。
（この取引、血人の罠あるし狼乗らない気はするけど）
取り敢えず「生き残ること」が狼の勝つ手段=陣営勝利を目指している、と思っている（別段間違ってない）として。
それで横から勝利かっさらわれたら「残念だった」とか「村勝ちよりはおうどん」と思う狼感情も、理解はしているつもりよ。
ゆるガチだし、この編成でどこまで狼視点が詰められるのか私もちゃんと計算してないし、この考え方は受け売りだからね（
【ルチア】 ルチア・アマルフィ
>>8894
まあ、ルチアさんもそんな感じですかね？
存在は目にできなくても通じあうはずですし。
早速ですが…、用意は既にしてありますので、入りますよ。(ｷﾞｭｯ
[どこから現れたか棺桶が床に置かれている]
[中身は空っぽだ]
[ふたりの体を棺桶の中にいれると]
[ひとりでに棺桶の扉は閉まり、鍵は厳重に締められた]
【湖】お御籤箱 リェンは、【ルチア】 ルチア・アマルフィせっかくですからナイフ一本ずつ御神籤つけときますよ。大凶引いたら諦めてください。
【トムトム】 ペッシェ
ペッシェのカオス編成なぜなに講座〜（ﾊﾟﾌﾊﾟﾌ
ペッシェ「さー始まりましたカオス編成。司会は僕が」
ちゃび「解説は俺が務めさせていただきます（非公認）」
ペッシェ「今回は人外が1、2･･･8人！縄は19→18人で8縄！1縄1人外吊らなきゃ勝てない！やばい！」
ちゃび「ちっちっち！それは違うよペッシェくん」
ペッシェ「？？？」
ちゃび「実は村は狼3匹さえ吊れば勝てる場合があるんだよ」
ペッシェ「･･･そっか！照魚はついで陣営、封狂は生きててもおっけー、恋は噛まれたり破局してれば縄はいらない！でも血人は？」
ちゃび「はい注目！http://melon-cirrus.sakura.ne....」
ちゃび「血人の勝利条件は”吸血鬼に覚醒した上で最後まで生き残ること”。血人のままなら放置してて良いってことだね」
【トムトム】 ペッシェ
ペッシェ「なるほど〜〜〜！でも血人を覚醒させないってそんな簡単に出来るの？」
ちゃび「そこからは自分で考えてみて欲しいかな。キーワードは占い、襲撃、封印だ」
ペッシェ「占いか襲撃を受けると血人→吸血鬼になるんだよね。そして封印を受けると吸血鬼→血人になっちゃう」
ちゃび「その通り。そして重要なのが処理順なんだ」
封印実行処理
↓
占い・呪殺
↓
襲撃処理
↓
吸血処理
(。-`ω´-)ノ
【トムトム】 ペッシェ
ペッシェ「封印が一番最初なんだね」
ちゃび「その通り。まず血人から吸血鬼になるのに1日、そして次の日吸血リールをセットしても、封印を受けたら吸血出来ずに血人に逆戻りなんだ」
ペッシェ「まず吸血になってから1日あるんだね。その間に吸血かどうか探ればいいのかな？」
ちゃび「さぁ･･･？ ここからは皆次第だ」
ペッシェ「今日のキーワードは吊るべき人外と血人対策！覚えたよ！」
ちゃび「本当は恋についても考えなければいけないからもっと複雑だけどね。噛みで落ちる、は甘いかもしれない」
ちゃび「でもこれを元に進行、手順計算をしていけば村側、人外側、双方の戦略が立てやすいかもね」
ペッシェ「ぼくゆる勢だからそういうの任せま〜す」
ペッシェ「それでは本日はここまで。また来週〜！」
【ルチア】 ルチア・アマルフィは、【湖】お御籤箱 リェンなんですかそれ、わけわからないこというな！(CV大和田仁美)は冗談ですが、大凶は死ぬのですか。
【湖】お御籤箱 リェン
>>ルチアさん
そんな死だなんて物騒な。
お二人の間柄によからぬことが降りかかるので、災難を仲良く乗り越えればいいんですよええ。
【独】 【にっける】オートマタ サレナ
智狼で狩抜きできたか、間違って狂人噛んでないかわかるのは確かに有効だけど、そもそもちゃんと上手く襲撃できるのかという問題が…
3潜伏、たぶん狂人も潜伏する場合。
初手逆呪殺×2とか、占い片方即噛み、もう一方呪殺した=1狼と引き換えの1殺とか発生すれば、確かにぐっと狼有利。
しかし霊ギドラ考えると2分の1で阻まれるし、確占下。
これ、村側がさっさと1狼〜2狼見つけるのと、狼が占い機能を破壊するの、どっちが難易度高い、というか頭が痛いのかしらという（
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