1830 【誰歓】忘年会・クリパ・新年会【ゆるがち】
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[メモ記入/メモ履歴] / 発言欄へ
【湖】お御籤箱 リェン
お魚さんも照る照るさんも約束を違えなければ大概狼の方につくよ？
村人に味方する人外なんてどの面下げて村を歩くつもりなのさ、ころせー
【もあっけん】おうさちゅ♪ モリー
>>8825
私も飲兵衛というわけではないので、経験があるわけじゃないですけどね。
少しだけですけどねー♪
あふ。私冷え性なので、るちあさんの手が暖かいです…♪
[冷たくしちゃうかな、なんて思いつつ。
指を絡ませて、強く握り返す]
【にっける】オートマタ サレナ
>>8832狐さん
そう上手く行かないから、カオスで面白いんじゃないの（
村と狼、どっちがキツいと思うか、という話で。
私は狼側の方が「勝ちに行かないといけない」から大変だと思った。村側は「負けない手段とおぼしきもの」を取れるけど、狼にはそれは無いからね。
まず「全員吊れば確実に勝てる状況」（白人外に勝利をさらわれない為の手段）を作らないといけないわ。
G編成と違って、誰でもいいから吊れば勝てるわけじゃない。
【狐神】うららん似のいたちゃんの蛮神 加藤
人間とは複雑な生き物なのだよ……
ルールを作りたい大勢の俺がいるなら
たまにルールを破りたくなる俺もいるんだろう
なんだこの小っ恥ずかしい話は
最下段はその通りな気がするが
やりにくい
まさしく
ただルールを守りきってもやりにくい
そりゃそうだ
【独】 【氷魚】 女鬼アザミ
占い師を占い師として見るか、霊能者として扱うかでもまた違うよね。
灰を占うか、封狂や狼と協定組むかでも変わってくる
個人的には灰攻めたい。
【狐神】うららん似のいたちゃんの蛮神 加藤
>>8842
全く計算してないが
狼側も推理をせねば勝てぬ(自分以外を殺せば勝てるわけでない)
ということだろうか？
占いよりはちろうの噛みの方が
いろんな意味で使える
魚(最後の方)照狂は狼仲間
占いは殺せる
憑依もできる
ふむ
【もあっけん】おうさちゅ♪ モリー
おうさちゅ、おうさちゅ♪
れっつごーじゃすてぃーん
ただでさえ喉がないのだ！
全てに気を配るなんてその発想自体が間違っている！
目の前の敵に全力で縄をお届けする！
満足する！Q.E.D
【独】 【氷魚】 女鬼アザミ
照狂狼が霊COしてきそうな気配もあるんだよなぁ。
恋矢防いでくれるのはいいんだけど、放置狙いの狼が来てると嫌だわぁ。
占のCOと絡めて内訳判断か、いっそ占うのもこの村ではあり。
【にっける】オートマタ サレナ
最短で占い×2殺しても、白3つも残る可能性あるんだよなーと思って、狼側の作戦次第ではそうでもないことに気付いて、撹乱もできるかもしれないっぽくて。（この辺は地上に任せる）
…暫定確白が吸血鬼の可能性とかあるものね。
狼が協力してくれないと村は勝てなさそうな感はわかる。
【湖】お御籤箱 リェン
狼は村の言いように使われていたらいつの間にか詰むし、なにより恋狼までいるかもしれないのに村のために付き合ってられないんだよねー
村人って自分のことばかりだもの、わがままだわー
【独】 【mage】 ジル
こんがらがってきた。整理。
封印の話。
占師を封印する→占能力封印で占先が血人でも吸血鬼化しない
占い先を封印する→
1、血人の場合。吸血鬼化失敗。
2、智・憑・呪狼の場合。襲撃能力、逆呪殺能力（呪狼）、役職感知能力（智狼）、憑依能力（憑狼）封印。
襲撃失敗については、狩人は手ごたえ感じないので、狩人視点意図的襲撃なしか狼封印の襲撃失敗かだとわかる。(この場合占われてるからあんま関係ないか？)(騙りが出ていなければの話)
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