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[メモ記入/メモ履歴] / 発言欄へ
【にっける】オートマタ サレナ
>>1700ミコトさん
仮想狼を意識して動けるなら、言うこと無しだと思うわｗｗ
騙り狼は盤面操作と陣営の要になる役目だと、しっかり把握できているのだもの。
狼騙りで非狼感を拾われる性質は、2-2なら陣営像を辿られないし、仲間からも上げやすいから強力ね。
良いじゃない、孤独は美しいのよ。
独りでいる時の顔が想像できない人よりもずっと、ミコトさんは魅力的ということだわ。
【にっける】オートマタ サレナ
先に吊られるなら「見せ黒」かしらね。
村人にラインを繋げて道連れに。
仲間とは、×切り合う ○非仲間要素を作って逃がす。
…この辺は、私より朱さんの方が詳しいと思うわ…
【狐神天】 うららん
レジーナが全裸とか言っててびっくりしたぜ。
全裸で白く見られるかは、まあ人次第だよな。
>>1724
確定白噛まれたら最終日でも敵は分からないのでは？
【とむとむ】 イリガミ
セカンドうるふ
LWより先に吊られる灰狼
騙りが一番目に出るものとしたときLWの間の狼を称するためのもの
あまりつかわれない
【Ladybird】 ミコト
>>1724
◇同じ
・自分の推理を信用してない
◆違う
・最終日にはいない（＝敵が分かる灰数になるまで生き残ること）
・狼見つけてもいつ出すかタイミング見計らって、乗ってくれそうな仲間を先に作ってから言うなど。
共通してふたりに足りないもの
・見つけた仲間はどんどん噛まれて火力足りずに最終日不利になる（＝噛ませたいところを狼に噛ませる誘導力）
【うららん】走り屋 ファシリア
>>1732
３〜４人灰最終日は結局分かりませんね。
占い師噛まれないために2dどうにかするか、
灰だらけでも分かるようにするか。
先生〜〜
【芋湯割り】狛狐 朱
え、わしは生存力無さすぎて、仲間を辿られない小細工だけしか成長してないパターン。
確定黒にしかなったことないわそういえば。
>>1705サレナ
あの村って、カヤの時の村かの？
【せんちゅ】 わんわん
推理ポンコツ過ぎても生き残ればなんとかなるで！
そこのいたくらさんに昔やられたけども
狼見つける能力より、占い見抜ける能力のほうが大事だと思う今日この頃
【狐神天】 うららん
推理当たらねェから、占い考察に心身掛けるタイプの人間は知ってる
少なくない気はするが。
灰だらけで分かった方が凡庸性は高いよな。
この身一つで行けるんだからよォ。
>>1737
そりゃどーも。
俺はあの村あんま思い出したくねェがなァ
【とむとむ】 イリガミ
真見抜いて盤面詰められたらどんな最強潜伏狼いても勝てるもんね
いい考えだとおもう･･･>>1741
あとは他の人たちにもそれを説得する力もあればさいきょだと思う
【Ladybird】 ミコト
サレナ>>1728
占い騙りで負けたときは、灰2狼が初手吊り・2日目吊りで吊られていったときと、村トレース型の狼さん（仮想狼陣営をつくらない・白取りで消去法で希望を出すタイプの方）と一緒になり、相談が上手くできなくて、誰とラインを繋ぐか、切るべきか、全く読み取れなかったときですね
経験自体少ないのでそういうタイプの方にどう合わせていいか悩んで終わってしまいました
2-2で霊騙りのときは、村に真視されていて、仲間は考察を曲げるのが苦手と言っていたので偽視されてましたね。ねじれライン想定で動いていましたね（真占に占われて問題のないC狂除く）
役に立ててない狂人感の悲しみが溢れてるらしいです（）＜孤独
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