1807 【誰歓】放課後のマック【ゆるがち】
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[メモ記入/メモ履歴] / 発言欄へ
【せんちゅ】 せんちゃん
ふむふむ
その辺も、「美味しいお弁当」ってひとまとめにしてるなのが、人狼の悪しき風習かな？とね
襲撃が見たくて、灰襲撃挟めば、狼の陣営が浮かび上がる（正否は置いといて）って人なら分かるけど、襲撃全く気にしない考察の人が言うのって、「セオリー」に流されてるだけで、その人の「思考」が感じられないのよね
お弁当ならお弁当で、自分襲撃されないからいいじゃんと思ってるガチ脳
【Ladybird】 カミュ
セオリーが確立されているせいか、ここ怖占いに限らずそれから外れると嫌がる人がいるのは確か
自分のなかにもセオリー言っておけばいいだろう みたいなのはある
【まから】 ロザベラ
>>2456 エドガーさん
すみません、>>2394のアンカーミスですね。
エドガーさんでしたら今の所断る理由はありませんので、お付き合いしてからとなりますでしょうか？
【calu】 カルカル
時々、この人残しとけば勝てる。みたいな人居ると、占って確白にして狩人張り付かせたくなったりもしますね。わん
ここ怖で白出るとロッカー系の人は頭から湯気出るかもしれませんね。わん
【せんちゅ】 せんちゃん
というか、占い機能自体が「狼を探すためのサポート」的な感覚なわけよ
ここ怖って疑心暗鬼からのもんでしょ？
どうみても白いやつにはそんなん使わんやん？
殴りあって勝てる相手占うなら、縄が届かん相手に使うのが普通じゃないのん？って思うのよね
占いってなんだかんだで、勝ちまでを時短させる機能なわけで、無くてもゲームはできるわけで
【Itakuri】 ドン・イタクリーネ
わかった。ここ怖で●せんちゃんが良さそうだね。
そしてよく分からないとよく言われるらしい▼犬の始末から始めよう。
【トムトム】 トム
俺は今も割とロッカーだけど進行や手順でなんとかカバー出来そうな範囲のロッカーだよ
そうじゃないときはかなりロックしないように気をつけてる
ここ怖嫌がられるのは単純に手順の問題でしょ
ここ怖って大抵白多弁占うけどそれで大した成果なかったら寡黙中庸まで能力処理する余裕無くなったりするからさ
白圧殺やその上で狩避けを考えての進行で白狙いここ怖ならまぁ良いけど
せんちゃんから見たら白いの占っときたいかもだが、他の人から見たらそれ以上にせんちゃん占いたいとかあるし
ここ怖多弁と微妙中庸に綺麗に分かれるならせんちゃんのやり方でええと思うけど大抵中庸以下が大多数だしそれじゃ縄も占いも足りないよね、っていう
黒いか白いかで分かれるならそら黒吊って白占いたいけど、実際は黒かも白かも判断不能ななんだこいつがいて、そいつを処理するために能力必要でそのしわ寄せがここ怖やめとこに繋がってるんじゃない
【びーぐる】 メアリー
んー。もうちょっと深く考えてみるー
ここ怖が忌避される理由はー
・逃避と思われる(>>2524)
・他に占う所がある
要するにー
「ここ白狼だったら怖いわ！」→「ここ怖で占いましょうっ」じゃなくて
「ここ白いから占いたいー」→「白狼かもしれないじゃない！」と受け取られるのがいけないっていう話でー
何も考えずに向き合ったら、白いところなんだから当然被誘導に見えるー
じゃあここ怖占いは狼！っていうのがいわゆる第一感かしら？
でも、他に適所がいない！皆適度に白拾える！とかなったら、白位置を占いたがる理由にはなるのかしら。
ぶっちゃけると、皆黒狙いが大好きだから>>2530みたいに嫌がられてるだけな気もするー。
【せんちゅ】 せんちゃん
もちろん占主義の人とかを否定する気はないんだけどね
占真贋の見極め凄い人は、戦況楽にできてるし
ただ、楽や効率に反する方法を律する風潮が、あまり好きではないというお話
【うららん】 キトリ
>>2522 せんちゃん
村だったらお弁当がもったいないから。と他に同じ。
この国じゃないけど、その結果喋らない人ばかりが後半残っても要素引き出せなくて困ってしまうという。
白い人が噛まれないような少人数だと、進んでここ怖占しましょうって偉い人が言ってました。
故郷では白確なら頼れるまとめは戦歴少ない人に多いですが、自分の思考進むためのせんちゃんなら有りだと思いますわ。 私も初日除いては入れていくこともあります。
【トムトム】 トム
君らウリ科の住民は縁があまり無いかもしれんが、他国では寡黙もいれば突然死もいるからな、しかも一つの村に複数。そんな中ここ怖やってる余裕なんてないことがいつものパターン
一方、そういうことがない上級者同士だと話から意図を手繰ってそれを理由にしたり手順で考えて占い希望出すからここ怖はしないという
仲間外れ感あるここ怖ちゃん
【独】 【ちゃび】 トビー
統一占なら村の視線の整理に使いたいなー。
自由占なら占い師にガンガン推理してほしい。
その過程でここ怖占が入るならそれでもいい、みたいな感じかな。
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