1807 【誰歓】放課後のマック【ゆるがち】
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[メモ記入/メモ履歴] / 発言欄へ
【せんちゅ】 せんちゃん
ほんと、まからさんとかちゃびさんみたいな雄弁キャラがロッカーなの、やめてほしいんだけど
トムくんもロッカーのイメージだけど、変わったのかな？
【独】 【トムトム】 トム
占いは全潜伏させて吊りかかった時か黒引いたときのみCOってのはどうだろう
それプラス統一占いな、全員占い候補で全員同じとこ占う
んで次の日【僕は黒引いた占いじゃありませーん】を回す
もちろん真占いは自分以外の誰かが出ても引き続き潜伏する
そして次の日全員が、前に話した白結果が出た霊能じゃないを回す
これなら仮に真占いの黒の場合はもう片方の占いも霊能も潜伏続けられるし狼も吊れるし狩は占い鉄板護衛続けられるからCOした占いも安心
騙りの偽黒なら霊能が出て騙り破綻、真占い2は引き続き潜伏出来て狩人は霊能鉄板護衛出来る
そこそこ形になってきた？
問題は騙りの偽黒が真占いの場合と、逆に当てられた狼が占いCCOする場合。うーん前者も後者もCCOさせてしまえば良いか。そっから統一進めればいずれ分かるだろうし
真占いが統一占い先になったらその占いには他のところ占ってもらおうかな？ ちゃんと考えてないからここなんか良い手がありそう。占いっぽくないとこを占い先にした方が良いか
これリアル人狼ルールを尊重して考えたけどあんま良い感じではないよな。無駄縄余裕最悪1だから悠長な感じする
でもそれはどんな戦術でもだし仕方ないか
【せんちゅ】 せんちゃん
あと、ID公開村なんで聞いてみたいんだけど、「ここ怖占い」って何があかんの？という疑問
俺とか、相対的にならん限り黒くならない自信もあって、そういうプレーヤーもあるなか、「白い」という理由で占わない理由にはならんと思うんよね
「こいつが黒いから、こいつの色みたい」的な発言見てて、黒いなら吊りで、後半狼なら村の脅威となるところを占うべきじゃない？
人狼ゲームを楽しむ姿勢なのはわかるけど、「勝ち」を狙う手順じゃないよね、と思ってる
この辺、寡黙吊り、中庸占い、多弁灰みたいな手順が確立してるので、逆らう気もないんだけど
これは野犬やってるときからの疑問なんで、「自分より白い奴占っとけば、あとは吊れる奴吊って勝つ」っていう昔の思考が基盤なんだけど
【calu】 カルカル
>>2522 せんちゃん
多分、それ言い出す人に、人外探す姿勢があまりないから、じゃないですかね。わん
何も言ってない人外も探さない、突然 なんかあいつ白いなーすごいなー、て思うけど狼だったら怖いから占おう。 とか言い出したら、普通に黒いんじゃないかと思います。わん
そうでもなかった場合はよくわかりませんけど、なんか風潮的に心象悪いから怒られる。みたいなのはわりとあるのかなぁ、とかとか。わんわん
【ちゃび】 トビー
「発言から捕まえられない」と思うなら占うのは妥当というか、勝つために取るべき手だと思うんだけど、
たまに「ここ怖」扱いされる俺としては、俺の事見る気ないんだなってしょんぼりする。
それくらいかにゃー。
【びーぐる】 メアリー
こんにちは！
気付いたらいっぱいになってたー。改めてよろしくお願いするわ！
>>2522
ここ怖占いを認めない風潮がわるいー。
「何がダメなのかー」って聞いたら一定の正当性は得られると思うし、ここ怖占いをしてる点で黒塗りも出来ないと思うの。
じゃあいいんじゃない？って思うのに、なんで認められてないのかなっ。
狼PLの陰謀かしら？
【calu】 カルカル
あとはまぁ、なんでしょうね。
そんなんで白いやつ処理するよりそこのよくわからないやつなんとかしてくれ！ていうのは、わりと自然かな。て思います。わん
よくわからないやつ。で大体私が指名されるんですけど。。わん
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